Pure Archer option to trade stamina fly for 50 pct hp

Kenneth · 2011-03-16, 02:10 AM

This is simple. Currently with my first reborn archer I'm lvl 133 276 bp 7,680 something hp. I dislike fly entirely as If you use it constantly to dodge all the cheep crap going around on the server these days people that 1 hit you with passive or AOE skills *hint hint* they call you noobs. :P if they 1 hit you they call you a noob even though the real skill lies in landing a few hundred shots before they get in their lucky aoe hit. I have more physical defense than most of the trojans i know as I use an archer hat perm souls and what not.

I take less damage than they do when you look at the sustained dmg values the only difference is they have the hp to absorb the hit. Such a high powered class should have lower hp, as their attack is supposed to make up for it. whereas a character with a lower attack should have more hp in order to balance out the obscene attack difference.

I know few of you care about classes that aren't op so ill keep the suggestion simple.

Pure Archer only can go to the job center and exchange the stamina skill fly for 50 percent more hp.

TinyS · 2011-03-16, 05:16 AM

ok the way i see it is

TQ made the fire the war and the tro and the water stronger ,the monk and
ninja came out strong all a archer was good for was to hunt and plvl waters
TQ took the DB out for non rb level 110 waters so that killed plvling the
drops are down so hunting is no good, im a full +8 Archer 130 Archer 130
Archer 131 and any class full +6 can kill me "my hp is under 10 k " i dont
think we need to trade fly but more HP and a Wepion we can use to att
"when not flying"would be nice we would need more Defense to just to stay
alive , i think the archer class needs work bad , face it the archer was made
for hunting and plvling , but neither is any good now ,if TQ wonts to keep
the Archer a hunter and not fix the HP and Defense make a map just for
Archers with good drops so a Archer can do what it was made to do hunt
TQ pls help the archer and so you'll know its not just becouse im a archer i
have a 139 2ed rb full +8 Fire and a almost full +8 2ed rb 131 Tro so i see
all sides of this

im Ace35 from Capricorn server

Remember it's a game you all have fun ty

TinyS · 2011-03-16, 05:48 AM

ooOoo and i dont think 50 pct
more hp alone will help much
you all ever seen how much a
Tro,War,Ninja,Fire,Monk or
a Water with a 2 hander
hits on a Archer

Kadio-X · 2011-03-16, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenneth

This is simple. Currently with my first reborn archer I'm lvl 133 276 bp 7,680 something hp. I dislike fly entirely as If you use it constantly to dodge all the cheep crap going around on the server these days people that 1 hit you with passive or AOE skills *hint hint* they call you noobs. :P if they 1 hit you they call you a noob even though the real skill lies in landing a few hundred shots before they get in their lucky aoe hit. I have more physical defense than most of the trojans i know as I use an archer hat perm souls and what not.

I take less damage than they do when you look at the sustained dmg values the only difference is they have the hp to absorb the hit. Such a high powered class should have lower hp, as their attack is supposed to make up for it. whereas a character with a lower attack should have more hp in order to balance out the obscene attack difference.

I know few of you care about classes that aren't op so ill keep the suggestion simple.

Pure Archer only can go to the job center and exchange the stamina skill fly for 50 percent more hp.

kenneth, first of all most tros have a significantly high HP because they realloted their attribute points, with regards to that, if you want more hp, i can suggest realloting as well.
on the other hand i agree that archers are way too underpowered, the only ones who even get close to doing 3 digit dmg or more are those with fans better than the opponents generally, that just isn't right.

The problem with the archer class and why it is still underpowered is, HOW would they make archers powerful? More Damage? that would be too much, with the number of arrows, speed of shots as well as the flying and scatter....

Erm my mind just went blank, forgot what i was saying so cutting it off here lol.

Khev · 2011-03-16, 08:50 AM

Rapid Fire that takes up 1/5 stam and mobile intensify.

Gonna regret this if it gets approved and implemented into the game.

Viery · 2011-03-16, 07:38 PM

Reading this makes me realize too...TQ didnt give much attention to archer...intensify ability looks so useless(seldomly use it)..wouldnt it be great if archer have it own poison arrow ability that dealt same poison effect as ninja.

Kenneth · 2011-03-16, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viery

Reading this makes me realize too...TQ didnt give much attention to archer...intensify ability looks so useless(seldomly use it)..wouldnt it be great if archer have it own poison arrow ability that dealt same poison effect as ninja.

I have another idea from intensify on the other forums would you like for me to place it here?

In response to the concern about realloting points. Yes trojans can do that because they dont per say rely on agility. If you were to take an archer and realot the 200+ points of agility to hp yes it would give a fair chunk, however, we still need Agility in order for our shots to land in the first place. Though there are 70-100 points in strength I could put to hp and once again atm im only first reborn. I think if we realot the strength attribute points to hp and then have the above suggestion as well it would be adequate.

Ps. As for the person that said a 50 percent increase wouldn't really help.
My archer with lvl 120 hat and armor along with his other gears has 6,118 physical defense. I take less damage from people that most trojans in my bp bracket. I just don't have the hp to absorb it like they do

just posted my intensify idea

4976399 · 2011-03-19, 01:49 PM

The one that suggest reallot attribute point, it is actually don't help at all.

I have archer 130-130-134,
to use level 130 bow,
I must put in attribute point 74 strength and 256 in agility,
whereas I remain 218 attribute point solely for vitality which pull my hp higher,
this only can help to extend my HP to 7k+.

The real thing is archer is totally underpower,
now basically this class are pretty useless.

Kenneth · 2011-03-22, 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4976399

The one that suggest reallot attribute point, it is actually don't help at all.

I have archer 130-130-134,
to use level 130 bow,
I must put in attribute point 74 strength and 256 in agility,
whereas I remain 218 attribute point solely for vitality which pull my hp higher,
this only can help to extend my HP to 7k+.

The real thing is archer is totally underpower,
now basically this class are pretty useless.

only 7K?
I'm scratching 10K hp with lvl 133-133 and super intensification of course the steed and necklace help out as well as the enchanted hp into all my items.

however even with my 9.whater K hp and my 6,750 physical defense I still dont survive 1 herc.

GodsDarkMoon · 2011-03-23, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenneth

only 7K?
I'm scratching 10K hp with lvl 133-133 and super intensification of course the steed and necklace help out as well as the enchanted hp into all my items.

however even with my 9.whater K hp and my 6,750 physical defense I still dont survive 1 herc.

Well archers aren't supposed to be tanks

. But yeah an hp boost would be good for you guys. I say Yes.

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2011-03-16, 02:10 AM	#1
Kenneth Full Member Join Date: 2011-03-10 Posts: 288	Pure Archer option to trade stamina fly for 50 pct hp This is simple. Currently with my first reborn archer I'm lvl 133 276 bp 7,680 something hp. I dislike fly entirely as If you use it constantly to dodge all the cheep crap going around on the server these days people that 1 hit you with passive or AOE skills hint hint they call you noobs. :P if they 1 hit you they call you a noob even though the real skill lies in landing a few hundred shots before they get in their lucky aoe hit. I have more physical defense than most of the trojans i know as I use an archer hat perm souls and what not. I take less damage than they do when you look at the sustained dmg values the only difference is they have the hp to absorb the hit. Such a high powered class should have lower hp, as their attack is supposed to make up for it. whereas a character with a lower attack should have more hp in order to balance out the obscene attack difference. I know few of you care about classes that aren't op so ill keep the suggestion simple. Pure Archer only can go to the job center and exchange the stamina skill fly for 50 percent more hp. __________________ Words are just dust in the wind. Having gears is one thing. Having skills is another. Having both and not abusing them is true power.

2011-03-16, 05:16 AM	#2
TinyS Rookie Join Date: 2011-03-16 Posts: 4	the Archer needs worked on bad ok the way i see it is TQ made the fire the war and the tro and the water stronger ,the monk and ninja came out strong all a archer was good for was to hunt and plvl waters TQ took the DB out for non rb level 110 waters so that killed plvling the drops are down so hunting is no good, im a full +8 Archer 130 Archer 130 Archer 131 and any class full +6 can kill me "my hp is under 10 k " i dont think we need to trade fly but more HP and a Wepion we can use to att "when not flying"would be nice we would need more Defense to just to stay alive , i think the archer class needs work bad , face it the archer was made for hunting and plvling , but neither is any good now ,if TQ wonts to keep the Archer a hunter and not fix the HP and Defense make a map just for Archers with good drops so a Archer can do what it was made to do hunt TQ pls help the archer and so you'll know its not just becouse im a archer i have a 139 2ed rb full +8 Fire and a almost full +8 2ed rb 131 Tro so i see all sides of this im Ace35 from Capricorn server Remember it's a game you all have fun ty Last edited by Ace33; 2011-03-16 at 08:26 AM..

2011-03-16, 05:48 AM	#3
TinyS Rookie Join Date: 2011-03-16 Posts: 4	the Archer needs worked on bad ooOoo and i dont think 50 pct more hp alone will help much you all ever seen how much a Tro,War,Ninja,Fire,Monk or a Water with a 2 hander hits on a Archer Last edited by Ace33; 2011-03-16 at 08:29 AM..

2011-03-16, 08:50 AM	#5
Khev Veteran Member Join Date: 2011-03-10 Location: New York. Posts: 1,627	Rapid Fire that takes up 1/5 stam and mobile intensify. Gonna regret this if it gets approved and implemented into the game. __________________ Khev Dreams - Honor/Justice 131-132-140 Water-Warrior-Trojan Fixed: Phoenix, Celestial, Seizer , and Penetration. Fixed Proficiencies: Club, Blade, Dagger, Scepter, Sword, Hook, Axe, Whip, Hammer. A skill is only as good as the person using it. The above statement in TQ games is False.

2011-03-16, 07:38 PM	#6
Viery Rookie Join Date: 2011-03-16 Posts: 3	Reading this makes me realize too...TQ didnt give much attention to archer...intensify ability looks so useless(seldomly use it)..wouldnt it be great if archer have it own poison arrow ability that dealt same poison effect as ninja.

2011-03-19, 01:49 PM	#8
4976399 Rookie Join Date: 2011-03-19 Posts: 1	The one that suggest reallot attribute point, it is actually don't help at all. I have archer 130-130-134, to use level 130 bow, I must put in attribute point 74 strength and 256 in agility, whereas I remain 218 attribute point solely for vitality which pull my hp higher, this only can help to extend my HP to 7k+. The real thing is archer is totally underpower, now basically this class are pretty useless.

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