Double warrior's defense

Kaiichi · 2011-05-15, 05:44 PM

Warriors are supposed to be the def class, yet we have no more def than anyone else.

Double the def on warrior equipment to make our description accurate

Fudo · 2011-05-15, 05:49 PM

voted yes, but i dont know that double is appropriate. wars still tank the shit out of most hits.

~Matt~ · 2011-05-16, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaiichi

Warriors are supposed to be the def class, yet we have no more def than anyone else.

Double the def on warrior equipment to make our description accurate

The problem i see is that STG gear adds far too much defence for what it is. but yes, i think war's should get maybe 30% more defence, double their current defence is a bit steep.

Khev · 2011-05-16, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Matt~

The problem i see is that STG gear adds far too much defence for what it is. but yes, i think war's should get maybe 30% more defence, double their current defence is a bit steep.

I honestly think its fine as is. Warrs get XP shield, which is 3x defense for 2 minutes out of 5. As well as massive amounts of block, though Shield Block does take up 50 stamina. Should be more towards 30 or so.

~Matt~ · 2011-05-16, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Khev

I honestly think its fine as is. Warrs get XP shield, which is 3x defense for 2 minutes out of 5. As well as massive amounts of block, though Shield Block does take up 50 stamina. Should be more towards 30 or so.

yeah, but, basic defence wise, monks still have more? and they are wearing frocks. makes no sense?

Khev · 2011-05-16, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Matt~

yeah, but, basic defence wise, monks still have more? and they are wearing frocks. makes no sense?

Well, without the shield. If you just account for the armor, its probably more cause of their headgear. Unless they have more even with the warrs shield. If thats the case, then thats just ridiculous.

~Matt~ · 2011-05-16, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Khev

Well, without the shield. If you just account for the armor, its probably more cause of their headgear. Unless they have more even with the warrs shield. If thats the case, then thats just ridiculous.

Monks have more defence than a warrior, even with a shield equipped!

Tuni · 2012-10-18, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Khev

I honestly think its fine as is. Warrs get XP shield, which is 3x defense for 2 minutes out of 5. As well as massive amounts of block, though Shield Block does take up 50 stamina. Should be more towards 30 or so.

wow sry i think im little late but i just read ur comment now and it would be nice if block would take 30 stamina
since if there is someone that spook u... ull lose all stam and need to w8 for 50 stam to get block? damn thats alot of w8ing time

ArmyGuy · 2011-05-26, 10:07 PM

i think a pure warrior's reflect should be bumped to 3k max or about dbl wht it is now or allow them to reflect 50pct of the dmg that could be done i think something needs to help the warrior out its a dying class

Impulse~ · 2011-05-30, 08:18 AM

I've already expressed my opinion on the whole "Warriors shouldn't have double defense, the other classes just need to be nerfed" topic... But as for the whole monk argument between Matt and WarDandan....

You are both wrong, VERY wrong. The following statements are true:

A monks defense has nothing to do with its beads.
A monks defense is 100% reliant on its BP.
If a monk is higher BP than you, you will be lucky to hit 2k.
If a monk is lower BP than you, you will do full damage.
You both need to do your research on the game before you argue something like that.

Monks made breakthrough 1000x more common for people to use, because you can't do full damage otherwise.

I've seen full +12 fires throwing on breakthrough on their bracelet just so they can hit full damage against monks. Which is STILL only 2k(assuming their penetration is 46%)

And lastly, don't even try to argue with me, I will reincarnate if I have to just to prove it. I have done literally every possible rebirth path thanks to reincarnation, I know what I'm talking about.

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2011-05-15, 05:44 PM	#1
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2011-05-15, 05:49 PM	#2
Fudo Junior Member Join Date: 2011-03-31 Posts: 58	voted yes, but i dont know that double is appropriate. wars still tank the shit out of most hits. __________________ We are the masters of every word we know, until such a time as we utter them, at which point we become their slave.

2011-05-26, 10:07 PM	#9
ArmyGuy Junior Member Join Date: 2011-03-16 Posts: 35	I kinda agree with this i think a pure warrior's reflect should be bumped to 3k max or about dbl wht it is now or allow them to reflect 50pct of the dmg that could be done i think something needs to help the warrior out its a dying class

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2011-05-30, 08:18 AM	#10
Impulse~ Senior Member Join Date: 2011-03-18 Location: Deus Ex Machina Posts: 559	I've already expressed my opinion on the whole "Warriors shouldn't have double defense, the other classes just need to be nerfed" topic... But as for the whole monk argument between Matt and WarDandan.... You are both wrong, VERY wrong. The following statements are true: A monks defense has nothing to do with its beads. A monks defense is 100% reliant on its BP. If a monk is higher BP than you, you will be lucky to hit 2k. If a monk is lower BP than you, you will do full damage. You both need to do your research on the game before you argue something like that. Monks made breakthrough 1000x more common for people to use, because you can't do full damage otherwise. I've seen full +12 fires throwing on breakthrough on their bracelet just so they can hit full damage against monks. Which is STILL only 2k(assuming their penetration is 46%) And lastly, don't even try to argue with me, I will reincarnate if I have to just to prove it. I have done literally every possible rebirth path thanks to reincarnation, I know what I'm talking about.