[Earl(crash4415)]

i remember long ago when EVERYONE log in thay all went to botjail . it was funny as hell . everyone on server went

[starride]

Originally Posted by Tommit

- So far I have put over 3k usd into this game in only 1 year and best gear I own is +8 veil.

While I'm sorry to hear about your unfair punishment
(I think any ban without proper explanation is basically unfair on customers)
just occurred me...

How can you have only a +8 while I've seen +12 gears selling for prices
like US$ 300 to 600 ? If I'm right, you could have one half-12-ed char ?

* Calculated by TQ Card of $29.99 for 2050 CPs.

[kirarin]

There is samething with my water noob.i using this noob for 2 year now only lvl to 110 want to get 1st rb. Afther i prepair all the item going to twin city she disconnect. And say tht im bot on this chart cant log in for 1day.

[Tommit]

Originally Posted by starride

While I'm sorry to hear about your unfair punishment
(I think any ban without proper explanation is basically unfair on customers)
just occurred me...

How can you have only a +8 while I've seen +12 gears selling for prices
like US$ 300 to 600 ? If I'm right, you could have one half-12-ed char ?

* Calculated by TQ Card of $29.99 for 2050 CPs.

Well most my bulk was put into the game when I first joined and not knowing much about the game I was working everything up liek training quest told me to do. Making items super, buying stones to increase +, adding DB's for sockets as well as tough drills. By the time I learned how much cheaper it would be to buy the gears already made, it was too late I was unable to really bulk big at once. So thats why my gears arent too great for the amount I have put into it.

[starride]

Yes, I know how it is, after years I came back and was a little eager in market he he.

I spent only $195 so far and paused the "buy button". I used to find cheap low level super 2 soc clubs or blades in the past, hard to trade but my good rep as player counted in Ryee (and being a DB buyer also helped a lot that time).

Now I can't find 2-socs under lv.50~100 and most times they are already over lv.120 and +5ed or something, typical botter stuff, I guess.

Honestly, I'm waiting to see how things develop with the launching of CO 3.0.

My goal is still be full 2-soc +5 (-5 is optional), but I'm trying to make it without paypal.
I know its really hard to upgrade your gears after lv.110, not to mention to get exp.
As I said somewhere, I had a tro.110 on +5s (not fully) and it costed me like $400, including an archer noob lv.20 on supers +1 just to look cool

Any advice from the veterans?

[Macha]

Most of my gear on my Trojan (Although, I share some with my other characters.) are +4's. I really wish it were a bit easier to obtain +'s. In fact, that would certainly curb the botters from selling gear at outrageous prices. I'm looking forward to putting my level 120 gear back on so I can work on upgrading their +'s.

[starride]

Originally Posted by Macha

...I really wish it were a bit easier to obtain +'s. In fact, that would certainly curb the botters...

Sadly, TQ already did something about it, they sell plus-stones in shopping mall.
I'm not against that, no, I really believe TQ took long before adding an item cash mall
like other games, its a must for the paying players.

Just the drop rates for +1, +2 and +3, considering +8's will never drop, should increase.

La la la forget about thaat.

[Macha]

Yeah, and the prices for + stones in the Shopping Mall are outrageous!!! The prices virtually triple with each higher stone listed; that hardly seems like appropriate "accounting" to me.

[Dark~Colossus]

Originally Posted by Macha

Yeah, and the prices for + stones in the Shopping Mall are outrageous!!! The prices virtually triple with each higher stone listed; that hardly seems like appropriate "accounting" to me.

But that's the point...

It takes 3x +3 stone to make a +4 stone....

1x +3 makes the item +3

Then the other 2 are needed to make the item +4.

So actually they should increase in price by triple each time.

[starride]

Originally Posted by Macha

Yeah, and the prices for + stones in the Shopping Mall are outrageous!!! The prices virtually triple with each higher stone listed; that hardly seems like appropriate "accounting" to me.

Originally Posted by Macha

Yeah, and the prices for + stones in the Shopping Mall are outrageous!!! The prices virtually triple with each higher stone listed; that hardly seems like appropriate "accounting" to me.

Old time CO used a composing system similar to D&D.

As Colossus said, its a pyramid scheme where you need three +1s to compose a +2.
The first one was different, you just needed to get an item you liked and add two +1
others (of same type) to make it +1. Most common type was the trojan club wich
could be made with any other single handed weapon (1H or One-Hander).

So a +1 could be "free", it could simply drop, or composed.
I still use to put basic +1s onto an elite soc item to better it.
Back then we used an exponential calculator:


03x +1 = (+2) or plain 3¹
09x +1 = 3x +2 = (+3) or just 3²
27x +1 = 9x +2 = 3x +3 = (+4) or as in 3³
and so on up to
19683x +1 = ... (+9) or 3^9

If I'm correct that was the top gear back in 2006. And nobody did it at that time.

Considering the drop rates, a good archer would gather some 2-4 +1s in a hour at apes or snakemen.
But you couldn't expect to make ALL items, so you should stick to one type and trade the rest -
Unfortunately, most players were after clubs, bows and tao sachs.
For clubs or swords any One-Hander (1H) would do, since weapons for a single hand can mix.
For wands and longhammers any Two-Hander (2H).
You couldn't mix coat and armour and robe types, however.

I made two +5 clubs that way, since there was no other. Kids got mad! Took me months...

Guys, with current drop(-dead) rates, how long would it take?